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Dealing With Tests From
Your Date
***Question From A Reader***
Hi David,
I attended your first seminar in LA and it was a
real eye opener for me. I've listened to the
advanced CD series 2 times since then and each time
I'm learning something new. I've noticed that the
trick is to go out and gain experience meeting more
women and then come back and listen to the CDs again
and you'll be surprised how much more you're picking
up. After attending your seminar I'm now able to
start a conversation with a woman in a bookshop and
get her to follow me from there to another location
to have coffee\tea etc, and I'm now able to this on
a CONSISTENT basis, something I didn't think was
possible before.
My question to you is regarding answering (or not
answering) questions from women. I now understand
that if you directly answer 'qualifying' questions
from a woman then you're accepting her qualifying
frame, which is VERY bad for attraction. But how
about questions that seem like she's genuinely
trying to get to know you better? Also how do handle
it when a woman says, "You never answer my
questions..." and then goes on and on about it? I've
had this kind of situation many times, I know it's a
sh**-test but I haven't found an effective way of
dealing with it yet.
For an example of this kind of test please read the
chat below which is an excerpt from an online chat I
had recently. I met her online but we've spoken on
the phone several times, she lives in a different
country from me so we haven't been able to meet yet,
but plan to do so soon. Not so much for this
particular chick but I would like to know how to
deal with this kind of situation with any chick in
future.
Tell me what you think, and if I handled her
questions (and accusations) properly and what I
could have done
better.
With thanks.
Your loyal student.
G. (London, England)
==================messenger convo=================
[Good initial C&F conversation, then she asked the
question]
Her: how many girls have you met from online so far?
Me: 5000
Her: it's a minus, that u never answer to my
questions
Her: but it's true, that u never answer to my
questions
Me: really?
Her: hm...... every time I ask you something about
u....you just answer with a slapstick something
Me: You know my name, where I live, my age, where I
had the craziest sex etc etc
Me: you want more?
Me: wow! there are greedy people in this world
Me: still there?
Her: yes.... I was just thinking what to say
Me: aha you're lost for words
Her: I don't want you to get me wrong here......
Me: shoot away!
Her: but I have the impression that you don't want
to talk about your outlook on relationships....
Her: that sounds weird
Her: are you dating somebody right now?
Me: outlook on relationships?
Me: is this a marriage proposal... you've got to be
rich though
Me: and be able to tell a story for 40 days and 40
nights
Her: here it comes again..... no, I'm just
interested in getting to know you.....
Me: I like to get to know u too
Me: of course you've got to be a great story teller
Me: then the marriage will be ON
Her: so, then why is it so bad to ask maybe how long
your longest relationship was... or when u did get
out of the last one....
Me: you think it's bad?
Her: I really love fooling around and chatting
around....but I don't like it if I never get answers
to just normal not indiscreet questions
Me: Indiscreet... hmmm. Ask whatever questions you
want
Me: you'll get to know me as it goes
Her: I already did.... and I don't have a list to
write that down.... I just noticed that... last time
when you called me on the phone... and today,
too...... every time I ask something about your past
I get a slapstick answer
Me: don't mind me that's how I talk. I'm playful but
we'll get to know each other as we go along
Me: it's a natural process
Me: you can't force it
Her: hey..... now you got me wrong..... see I didn't
want that
Me: want what?
Her: that you get this message the way you got
it..... I'm not that needy and I don't want to force
anything.
Me: cool, I like that...
Me: needy people scare me
Me: I know you're not needy
Me: so when are u thinking of coming?
Her: I told you.... it would not be possible before
march because in Feb. I'm on training... and work...
and will have no (NO!!) day off the whole month
Me: working all month, not even free for the
weekends?
Her: no....
Me: what training is it?
Her: especially not the weekends..... from march on
I will have a little bit more time (especially the
weekends)
Her: I worked on getting me free time on weekends
because I want to have a private life again one
day....
Me: time to go out and stuff
Her: I'm doing my A-licence for aqua-training the
next 3 weeks, and then the last diploma for Pilates
Her: for example
Me: you're going to put me through some steps when
you get here
Her: put you through some steps?
Me: workouts... were you thinking of something
else... bad girl!
Her: no... I just wanted to know what you want to
learn...what where you thinking about
Me: whatever is nice and easy, anyway we'll see when
come
Me: what are you up to next tonight
Me: up
Her: not much.... watch a movie maybe and then go to
bed.....
Me: ok, hope you get better wrap warm.
Me: I've got to hit the sack now
Me: tired from a long day at work
Her: do that.... and talk to you soon.... just have
to work 2 hours tomorrow night.... I need that
break, maybe I'll cancel that, too and stay in bed
Her: nite nite then......xx
Me: good night
David D.
>>>My Comments:
Great job!
It's good hearing from you, "G". I remember you very
clearly from the LA seminar... and I remember the
breakthrough you had.
Congratulations on getting to the next level. It's
exciting to hear that you can now go out to a bookstore
and get a woman to join you for tea on the spot on a
consistent basis. Nice!
On to your questions...
First of all, let's talk about the whole concept of
"testing", and why women do it (and, more importantly,
how to deal with it when it happens).
In a nutshell, "testing" is a woman's way of QUICKLY
finding out a lot of information with a very small
investment.
You must remember that beautiful women are being
approached ALL THE TIME in one way or another... just
about every man they meet tries to pick them up or come
on to them.
Women can FEEL this happening, even before it actually
starts.
Now, if a woman is "available", she must figure out a
way to "separate the men from the boys" so to speak, and
figure out if a particular man is going to be worth her
time.
Enter the TEST.
Also, if an attractive woman is out on a date with a
man, or having a phone conversation, etc. (or anything
else that could be perceived as taking things to the
next level) she must find out quickly whether this
particular guy is:
1) Long-term relationship material
2) Short-term "affair" material
3) Friend material
4) Wuss material
5) The Gimp from Pulp Fiction
Keep in mind, a beautiful woman has LOTS of options.
She's being approached probably 100+ times a month with
date offers, etc. and could never hope to spend even a
small fraction of her time with all the men who are
interested in her. She must use TESTS to quickly cut to
the chase and find out what a particular guy is REALLY
all about.
Tests can take many forms. Here are a few common ones:
1) Canceling plans with little notice, or flaking out
entirely without notice
2) Asking for gifts or favors outright
3) Acting snotty, demanding, dramatic, or manipulative
to see if you'll put up with it
4) Asking or telling you to change your behavior
5) Threatening to leave or take her attention and give
it to someone else if you don't comply with her wishes
...and the list goes on.
As you already know, women often use more SUBTLE tests
as well. For instance, complaining that you don't answer
her directly, to see if you will. Or telling you that
what you're doing is annoying to her.
In your email, you wrote...
"But how about questions that seem like she's genuinely
trying to get to know you better? Also how do handle it
when a woman says, "You never answer my questions..."
and then goes on and on about it? I've had this kind of
situation many times, I know it's a sh**-test but I
haven't found an effective way of dealing with it yet."
...well, the good news for you is that you know a guy
who has had this happen A LOT more times to him...and
that person is ME!
And the "effective" way to deal with it is to keep doing
exactly what you're doing. The "problem" here is how
you're interpreting the situation.
My guess is that all of the problems you're having
around this issue come from the fact that you "see" it
as a problem... not because there actually IS a problem.
Here's a little chunk of the dialogue that you included
with your email...
Her: I really love fooling around and chatting
around.... but I don't like it if I never get answers to
just normal not indiscreet questions
Me: Indiscreet... hmmm. Ask whatever questions you want
Me: you'll get to know me as it goes
Her: I already did.... and I don't have a list to write
that down.... I just noticed that... last time when you
called me on the phone... and today, too...... every
time I ask something about your past I get a slapstick
answer
Me: don't mind me that's how I talk. I'm playful but
we'll get to know each other as we go along
Me: it's a natural process
Me: you can't force it
...OK.
The way I read this, you
GAVE IN when she started complaining, and said "...don't
mind me that's how I talk...". You basically said "Don't
mind me, I'm actually kind of a Wuss, and that's how I
talk". Are you with me here?
You didn't need to EXPLAIN yourself, or make an excuse
for yourself. What I'm trying to say is that YOU are the
problem here, not the women who complain about you not
answering their questions.
Try this instead:
Her: I already did.... and I don't have a list to write
that down.... I just noticed that... last time when you
called me on the phone... and today, too...... every
time I ask something about your past I get a slapstick
answer
Me: I'm glad you like it. Maybe that's why you keep
messaging me and thinking about me so much! <kiss kiss>
...see the difference here?
If a woman complains because you're being difficult,
LAUGH. Pretend you're a bad little boy on the school
playground, and you just pulled her hair... and she's
upset with you... What would the little boy do?
He'd laugh... and then snap her bra!
Keep things fun. Don't let her change your direction or
upset your mood. You absolutely CANNOT turn into a Wuss
and start explaining yourself. There's ALWAYS a better
way to do things.
For example...
Let's say you've decided that the woman you're talking
to is really starting to get annoyed, and you want to
give her a little chunk of info.
Instead of saying "Don't mind me", say "OK, I'm 27 years
old, I work for an accounting firm, I pay my own rent, I
wear socks that match, and I love my mom... is that
better? How boring is that?"
In other words, TELL HER what she wants to know, but say
it in a sarcastic way that also says "Fine, you're
boring and since you can't think of anything fun to talk
about, I'll answer you... Brat".
Keep in mind... this whole style of communication is
VERY different from what most guys do... and it's often
surprising to a woman. When she kicks and screams a bit,
it's usually because she's genuinely surprised. But
don't mistake her whining for REAL resistance.
If she actually gets upset and doesn't want to talk to
you anymore just because you didn't answer her
questions, and instead busted her balls a bit, then let
her go. You learned something VERY valuable, and you
didn't even have to marry her to learn it.
Also, when a woman starts resisting your evasive and
humorous comments...
...LAUGH!
Have fun.
You need to learn to enjoy yourself during this process.
It sounds to me like you're letting this stuff get to
you... which is NOT useful. By the way... there was
something you said to this girl that I absolutely
LOVED...
Her: are you dating somebody right now?
[deleted comment that was out of sync]
Me: is this a marriage proposal... you've got to be rich
though
...this is great!
She asks if you're dating someone, and you ask her if
she's proposing! And then you said "You've got to be
rich, though".
Now THAT'S the right way to answer a question like that
one.
Nice!
To finish, I'm going to do something a little bit
unconventional, and include another email that I just
received from a guy in Australia (He has the same first
initial as you... I wonder if there's a relation...).
Read this:
"You ROCK,
Since I am new to your publication I am unsure if you
get much mail from Australia.
What a difference a week makes. Last Saturday I had a
date with a great young lady. Smart, sexy, beautiful
etc. Well the 1st date didn't go to badly, some
passionate kissing and fun, but when it came time to try
to take her top off, the answer was a firm NO. That is
where the night ended.
Mustn't have been too bad cause I got a follow up date
the next Friday, but I also got the cold(ish) shoulder.
What she didn't know is I got you book on Wednesday.
Wow, what a difference. I realised she was lining me up
for the hoop jumping as a potential "long term
relationship" and sex was at least three dates away-way
too far.
She was playing games, but your book came to the rescue.
When i phoned her to make the date, she said "I will
PENCIL you in". Well in my old ways I would have said
"Yeah sure", but there is a new Greg with Double Your
Dating Power. When she tried the line I came back with
"Well let me know. I am a busy man, if you can't make
it, I need to know-NOW."
When I picked her up, she kissed me on the cheek (after
playing tonsil hockey the week before, was a little
strange). So I put your strategies into play.
I didn't touch her for 4 hours, didn't hit on her,
didn't look at her, was very standoffish. Went out of my
way to point out her strange behaviour. At one stage I
called her "A walking contradiction". When she went down
the "But it will change our friendship if we take this
further (read long term relationship) path-I said
"That's fine, I just want to have a little FUN."
When I finally did kiss her she melted. Only for me to
stop after about 45 seconds. I then didn't touch her
again for about 1/2 an hour.
She finally took her own top off (I couldn't budge it 6
days before) and then she said "I will make you a deal,
if I take a piece of clothing off, then you must take
one off as well. She was chasing me!!!! Well we
undresses and had a great time for about three hours.
Afterwards, she invited me out! Love your stuff. Must go
and re-read your wonderful words again. I can't wait to
get the DVD's.
Regards,
G.
ps So if any of you want to come over here, know it
works and works really well. And there are plenty of
great looking women.
G."
...OK, so I included this story because I wanted to
demonstrate a different aspect of testing, and of
"passing" this kind of testing with FLYING colors.
Often, a woman will test you by RESISTING you, or by
telling you that "things are moving too fast" or even by
asking you what your intentions are with her long term
(when you've only known her a short while, and have no
intentions of any kind). What this gentleman above did
was to SEE her bet, and then RAISE her.
He called her bluff, basically. WOMEN LOVE THIS!
It INSTANTLY shifts the power from one side to the
other, and totally changes the situation around.
Points I'd like to comment on:
1) The first time you saw her, you kissed. When you
tried to take off her top, the answer was a "firm NO".
>>>The reason why the answer was a "firm NO" was because
you gave her something to resist. Instead of amplifying
the ATTRACTION in the situation, and building the
ANTICIPATION, you just went for it. Next time, you'll
know better.
2) The second time you saw her, you didn't do anything
that even LIGHTLY indicated that you were interested in
her.
>>>Great job! This is perfect. Most guys can't go four
MINUTES without screwing things up by trying to kiss a
woman, asking her how she's feeling, or doing some other
Wuss Bag thing that blows everything. You were able to
stay cool and calm for FOUR HOURS... and allow the
tension to build. I guarantee you that she was wondering
what the hell was going on.
3) When you finally did kiss her, you STOPPED after 45
seconds... then didn't do anything else for a half hour.
>>>Again, great move. Perfect. It doesn't surprise me at
ALL that she took her own top off, then told you that
you had to take something off as well. This is what
happens when you understand the process by which women
test... and the process by which women become sexually
aroused.
...thanks for the email.
Now, in this newsletter I've focused on the topic of
TESTING. I've also discussed amplifying attraction, and
eliminating resistance from women.
The reason that these two guys who wrote in are doing so
well right now is because they understand something that
most guys DON'T understand. They "get it".
And, like most of the people I've met in life who are
trying to be the best they can be, they're always
looking to improve. They're continuing to educate
themselves, even though they have a level of success
that most men would envy.
It took me about three or four YEARS to finally "get
it", and to have total confidence that I could go out
anywhere, anytime, and meet women.
That was partly because I couldn't find any good models
to learn from... and partly because I had to "unlearn" a
lot of bad programming I had obtained along the way.
The reason I wrote my original eBook "Double Your
Dating" was because I wanted to be able to help other
guys out there to understand how to be successful with
women and dating... without having to go through all the
hassles and wasted time that I had to deal with.
It allowed me to go "deep" and spend a lot more time
teaching the "inner game", as well as the "outer game"
and specific techniques for meeting and dating women. It
also allowed me the opportunity to interview some of the
guys I know who are REALLY good with women...
and get them to share many of the great ideas that I
learned from them that helped me become successful.

I invite you to check it out.
I mean, you'll never reach a point where you never have
any problems with women, but you sure can prevent and
eliminate about 80% of them by just knowing what to do
to set up each step with women, and how to respond to
certain situations.
If you'd like an introduction to my main concepts and
techniques, then you need to start with my eBook, Double
Your Dating. It's the foundation for everything that I
teach in these articles, and it's a MUST-read. It's
here:
http://www.doubleyourdating.info/ebook
I'll talk to you again in a couple of days. Your Friend, David D.
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